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  Jehovah's Witnesses Propaganda & Hypocrisy Video

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

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  2. beliefs

  i didn't make this video it just showed up in my utube web page, god i love utube.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyv5lg1uh0o.

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  Half banana

  Excellent video Brokeback, it is well researched and presented. We need more of these exposés.
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  Blood card

  by Inabunker in

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  2. medical

  hi new to forum and first post!

  i have been reading posts on and off for years.

  still fighting my "doubts" and struggling internally, my family is active and the wife knows nothing of my late night website reads here.

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  Half banana

  Inabunker welcome to the site. It's not an easy task to get out of the JW cocoon, so many restraining threads of connection have to be cut through to become free.

  With the blood matter, the GB have developed a cunning plan to mark those who are gullible enough to give their lives to the organisation. If you are prepared to literally sacrifice yourself or your children in obedience to them; you are counted as being "in". Hence the demand for documentation, to put it in writing. Such extreme loyalty in a cult is a capital resource.

  In the JW cult, the paramount doctrine is total rank and file obedience to the leadership because on this, their survival, their power and their prestige depends. God's spirit has nothing to do with anything! The JW org now is all about the leadership...it's nauseating isn't it?

  I do hope you can reveal TTATT (the truth about the truth) to your wife in a way which does not alienate her. Wishing you all the best in your escape.
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  My Lawyers Letter To The Elders

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for those of you that asked, below is a copy of my solicitors letter to the elders in my old congregation.

  he sent a similar one directly to bethel and a medical directive to my daughters gp to go on her medical records that i have already given permission for her to have a blood transfusion should she need one:.

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  Half banana

  Just well done PE! JWs have a hard job recognizing which authority they come under and you have shown them which one it is.

  Perhaps more importantly you have shown your daughter's mother where you stand on the important things in your daughter's life.
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  “The Jesus-followers’ first 200 years”

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the archaeologist digs and then sifts through remnants from the past, assembling the discoveries into patterns so that stories of the past may be brought back to life.. with almost 850 direct quotations from 50 books, my study sifts remnants from the first 200 years of christianity and sorts them into patterns that may help others to assemble a vessel that can hold ideas, or to form a skeleton where muscle and flesh, heart and mind, may be applied.

  a comprehensive contents listing is provided at the rear of this study.. my study, “the jesus-followers’ first 200 years” is available at:.

  http://www.jwstudies.com/the_jesus-followers__first_200_years.pdf .

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  Half banana

  Well done Doug for getting it all down on paper. I agree with your feelings which you mentioned before completion that writing is a route to learning, or words to that effect. Since it is an area I am also very interested in I will read it with great interest.

  The biggest bugbear in looking at historical text is "assumptions" isn't it?
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  Elders Advice Backfired And Now Im The Happiest I've Ever Been

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just wanted to update you guys of the amazing couple of weeks i've had in recovering from the cult.. i was attending the meetings still just so i could see my daughter in the kingdom hall and have her sit we me half the time.

  i had no intention of ever becoming a jw again but was hoping to be re-instated and just not turn up ever again so i could at least see my family.

  but then an elder said something to me that changed all that.

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  Half banana

  Beautifully put Pale Emperor. Who wants an artificial family where the relationship is created by submission to mad beliefs instead of human closeness?

  Enjoy the richness of the human world.
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  1999 - Pay Attention To Daniel's Prophecy!

  by mildren53 in

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  2. bible

  i search this book in pdf, original version non revised.

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  Half banana

  and...?
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  Who loves bikes?

  by JRK in

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  2. entertainment

  what was the most fun ride you've ever had?.

  my personal favorite was my ducati paso 750. it may have been before a few of your times, but it was an italian rocket that totally blew away anything from japan.. .

  jk.

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  Half banana

  I bought a 1200cc Suzuki Bandit as a birthday present for myself when I escaped the Borg. 90 MPH in second gear and still plenty of acceleration left. I took it to full speed just a touch below 150mph just once but travelled many miles on deserted southern French roads at night at 120. Effortless power is a joy. I loved riding in storms and taking the bike to the limit of lean.

  On a bike I often think of the line of GM Hopkins in his famous poem The Windhover, "as a skate's heel sweeps smooth on a bow bend: the hurl and gliding".

  @ Finky, I always wanted an 850 Norton Commando and still think its a desirable bike.
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  The governing body are digging their own grave.

  by atomant in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  surely the gb aren't naive enough to believe their own lies.what does it take for the majority of j dubs to wake up to themselves and finally realize that they are being robbed on all levels emotionally.financially,spiritually,intellectually and many other aspects of their day to day lives..

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  I suggest that the norm in governing any organisation requires the leadership to fulfil the job awarded them; that is the job of directing the people and the money and to make the business grow.

  Historically there has always been a separation of the private beliefs and the public sentiments of leaders. People with responsibility are either trained in leadership or as in the case of the GB they are chosen for their fidelity to the org but whichever way a person arrives at the top of the tree, it is required of them to play a leadership role. The political forces for leadership demand a steely and often un Christ-like ruthlessness.

  But also there are perks of the job... how about good old Pope Leo 10?

  “At a lavish Good Friday banquet in the Vatican in 1514, and in the company of "seven intimates" Leo made an amazing announcement that the Church has since tried hard to invalidate. Raising a chalice of wine into the air, Pope Leo toasted: "How well we know what a profitable superstition this fable of Christ has been for us and our predecessors."”

  As a JW I would never have thought this attitude was possible in Watchtower land but now having seen the dishonesty and lies of the organisation, I believe that it is possible to be in the GB and not be a true believer. Humans are very capable of duplicity and any doubting GB member has every incentive to continue the charade expected of him.

  After all, this is now the pattern found in the congregations; many attending are just going through the motions but are no longer “true believers”.

  The JW religion is fast becoming a hollow organisation.
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  I have to get this off my chest...cult equals guilible

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two weeks ago while visiting a friend in north carolina, i agreed to go with him to the sunday public talk.

  the public talk was about how the witnesses have the direction of angels while going in service.

  the speaker told some real doozies and you could hear the "oohs and ahhs" from the audience.

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  Half banana

  Yes SG, JW talk is rooted in angel fantasy, it's garbage for the gullible.
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  The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures argues for more than one GOD

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  gen.1:26 "and god went on to say "let us make man in our image according to our likeness.....etc,etc,.. the key words here are "us" and " our" ,he is including other life forms just like him in using plurals.. he did not say " i" will make man in "my" image ,using the singular vernacular.

  the same is also noted in gen 3:22 "and jehovah god went on to say " here the man has become like one of " us".

  again he is using the plural and not the singlar language clearly showing their were other life forms on an equal footing to him.. also satan via the serpent also knew the difference between good and bad before he tempted eve , showing he was on a par with jehovah god in knowing that fact along with the other gods in heaven.. another scripture that comes to mind is 1 cor.8:5 "........just as their are many gods and many lords,,,".

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  Half banana

  It comes as a shock to learn that during the latter part of the Jewish Bible writing time period, the acknowledgement was that the partisan god of Israel YHVH, was not monotheist at all but henotheist i.e. the one to be worshipped exclusively among the many gods. It was only too apparent there were "many gods and many lords"!

  In Genesis however the perception of god was clearly polytheist. Even when henothism replaced it, the god of Israel YHVH, simultaneously took on the duties later attributed to Satan ...(Amos 3;6) which is what would have been expected from any god of the Canaanites or other contemporaries. The whimsical god who both destroyed your crop and killed your enemies... gods were like that in those days!

  My own researches show as Doug Mason tells, that Yahweh's consort was Ashera who was also his father's consort. Ashera appears to have been misunderstood by the KJ version of the Bible which omitted her name by referring instead to the high places where her images were revered. She fulfilled the role of the Queen of Heaven in the Canaanite pantheon as a fertility goddess. The sanitized Christian story of Jewish monotheism is a whitewash. We even have the names of some of Yahweh's brothers in the Bible; Chemosh for example.

  YHVH or Jehovah, as the stone reliefs found in Palestine show; was an ox-headed idol, presented in the Egyptian manner seated and with long crescent shaped horns, these usually refer to a Moon God.

  How did this wooden idol YHVH made by superstitious goat herders, get to become the almighty creator? It makes you think!